- Something tells me if Zelensky becomes the president, Poroshenko won't avoid criminal prosecution. As classics say, he'll have to serve a sentence before he goes.
- They'll come to an agreement as always.
Yakov Kedmi, political figure (Israel): It's clear to everyone the elections were grossly rigged. It's just unfair to recognize those elections with any result with respect to all of the rules which any state talks about and proclaims. It means to spit in one's own face. The West has already recognized the elections. There wasn't a word about ballot rigging anywhere in the West. There was terrible rigging described in the Ukrainian press. There wasn't a word about the dismissal of the mayor of Odessa because of the elections. It isn't interesting to them. In addition to it, that exercise of Macron showed that they recognize the elections. He's ready to recognize either of them. Frau Merkel did a stupid thing typical of German. She did exactly what was prescribed. She decided in an arrogant and unfair way to play in the hands of Poroshenko, just in case it helps him. Giving a damn about principle, she said she didn't think that it was wrong to receive him then, nine days before the elections. She wanted to discuss urgent problems with him. What urgent problems can be discussed with a president nine days before he can cease to be the president, according to democracy? Who's ever heard of it? Even stupid German heads can understand it. You don't discuss anything with a candidate nine days before the elections because he may fail to be elected. So why should you? But she doesn't care.
It's a typical approach of the West toward the events taking place in Ukraine. Actually, excuse me but only a complete dupe, an idiot who doesn't understand what happened before can believe electoral promises, especially in Ukraine. Where, when, who has ever fulfilled campaign promises in the West? Tell me.
- I can tell. The only such person is named Donald Trump. He frenziedly fulfills all of his campaign promises, except for one — to reconcile with Russia.
- He doesn't fulfill them, he tries to do something but he hasn't fulfilled almost anything. They don't fulfill them. That's why Trump surprises them. What kind of thing is it? They think that he isn't obliged to fulfill what he promised during the campaign. This is what surprises everyone, let alone Ukraine.
But there's one peculiarity in Ukraine. They seem to fail to notice it. The Ukrainian authorities, from the first ones to the current ones, don't believe that Ukraine can be an independent state. They don't believe in Ukraine at all. Their eyes are full of surprise. They don't understand how it ended up like this. This explains their careless attitude to what they themselves don't consider to be a state. Everything they say... They say that Europe, Americans, Germans, Frenchmen, Polish, and whoever else should provide them with a statehood. When they turn to their own people, they don't talk about it. They try to deceive and oppress them, rig them. Look, in Scotland, they've already held a plebiscite several times. But nobody acts outside Scotland with respect to the issue of the independence of Scotland. People of Scotland are to decide it. They don't turn to anyone. They don't rely on anyone. They rely on themselves only. The authorities of Scotland and Great Britain turn to the people of Scotland. It's them to decide. But nobody turns to the Ukrainian people in Ukraine. Everything they say is similar to the speeches of the pseudo-communists who have been running this country during recent years. They proclaimed the victory of communism, indestructible friendship, the Soviet Union. They didn't believe in it, that's why it ended up like this. The same is happening in Ukraine today. The slogans are different but the kernel is the same. The Ukrainian elite doesn't believe in Ukraine as an independent state.
You discussed the historic European past of Ukraine. When the rudderless as the Polish called Ukraine was first a part of the Lithuanian Duchy and then of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth, the people living there were lackeys, lowlifes as the Polish called them. This is how the Polish brought up the population of Ukraine. This is the only European past that that population had. They were lowlifes of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth. And this the future they want for you. Ukraine didn't have any other European past. If you see the pride and your destination in this, then you're moving toward it because they don't view you in a different way in Europe. They don't view in another way but as lackeys in Europe. And the Polish treated you in the same way.
- Alexander, keep silence, please.
- If you're fine with this and there's land reform in Ukraine, then that terrible crime of Chubais with privatization will seem nothing in comparison with that crime of looting the state and people of Ukraine. Residents of Russia and not only Russia still remember what it led to here.
But the results of the elections don't have any importance. Nobody knows who Zelensky is and what policy he'll conduct. He also doesn't know it. Nobody also knows whether Ukraine will continue to be a presidential republic or it'll become a parliamentary republic. Nobody knows who'll hold the power. The thing is that Europe and the United States will determine it. It's because today's Ukraine, which is called independent and democratic, exists only at the will of Europe and the US and for their purposes. Their main purpose was, is, and will be to create a bridgehead against Russia. And only when they're forced to take their hands off Ukraine or they do it themselves, then we'll be able to talk about real Ukraine. We don't see it so far.
